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	<title>Comments on: Eurobike 2009</title>
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	<description>Personal power meters are coming...</description>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right Peter, it&#039;s been too long since we let people know how we&#039;re doing.  We&#039;ve been completely occupied with working on it, and writing up the blog was always tomorrow&#039;s job.  So I&#039;ll try to fix that now, and write an update. Stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Peter, it&#8217;s been too long since we let people know how we&#8217;re doing.  We&#8217;ve been completely occupied with working on it, and writing up the blog was always tomorrow&#8217;s job.  So I&#8217;ll try to fix that now, and write an update. Stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what&#039;s the status in this powermeter?
When will they hit the market?
It has been a very long time since the blog was updated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s the status in this powermeter?<br />
When will they hit the market?<br />
It has been a very long time since the blog was updated.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m new to your system but am very anxious to see this.  Great idea!  I hope this is affordable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to your system but am very anxious to see this.  Great idea!  I hope this is affordable.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, the rate of forward movement of the cranks &amp; pedals is part of the information used to calculate power, so when the pedals are static the calculated power is zero no matter how much force is being applied.

Our system measures forces passing through the cleat to the pedal. A wedge should make no difference. Asymetric forces will make no difference either, because our system measures right across the width of the cleat. In fact, it measures separately at a number of points, so it will be able to provide information about asymetry in the application of force to the pedal (and about how it varies around the crank rotation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, the rate of forward movement of the cranks &#038; pedals is part of the information used to calculate power, so when the pedals are static the calculated power is zero no matter how much force is being applied.</p>
<p>Our system measures forces passing through the cleat to the pedal. A wedge should make no difference. Asymetric forces will make no difference either, because our system measures right across the width of the cleat. In fact, it measures separately at a number of points, so it will be able to provide information about asymetry in the application of force to the pedal (and about how it varies around the crank rotation).</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry, sounds like a product with a lot of potential. 
Two Qs

- how does the sensor differentiate between pressure that turns the crank, and static pressure that is applied when a mountain biker is balancing on the pedals riding downhill out of the seat?

- I am an Australian physiotherapist, and very interested in the efficiency of foot to pedal force transmission. I still wonder when pedal and cleat manufacturers are going to wake up that standard pedal design should allow most force transfer to pass from the head of the first metatarsal (ball of the foot) to the pedal. This would avoid ITB friction syndrome and stress fractures of the 5th metatarsal. Cleat wedges are one solution though very few bike shops seem to fit them anywhere in the world. How will your sensor cope with cleat wedges or asymmetric force transmission through the cleat? i.e. more force through the medial aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, sounds like a product with a lot of potential.<br />
Two Qs</p>
<p>- how does the sensor differentiate between pressure that turns the crank, and static pressure that is applied when a mountain biker is balancing on the pedals riding downhill out of the seat?</p>
<p>- I am an Australian physiotherapist, and very interested in the efficiency of foot to pedal force transmission. I still wonder when pedal and cleat manufacturers are going to wake up that standard pedal design should allow most force transfer to pass from the head of the first metatarsal (ball of the foot) to the pedal. This would avoid ITB friction syndrome and stress fractures of the 5th metatarsal. Cleat wedges are one solution though very few bike shops seem to fit them anywhere in the world. How will your sensor cope with cleat wedges or asymmetric force transmission through the cleat? i.e. more force through the medial aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, in principal our cleat based power meter will work on any bike, including road and cyclocross, but in practice it will depend on whether we support the cleat &amp; pedal you want to use. We have not yet decided which cleats we will support with our initial product, or what the timetable will be for supporting different cleats.

As for running, the power data will not be affected because the system can distinguish between pedaling and other movement, and will not record any power data while running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, in principal our cleat based power meter will work on any bike, including road and cyclocross, but in practice it will depend on whether we support the cleat &#038; pedal you want to use. We have not yet decided which cleats we will support with our initial product, or what the timetable will be for supporting different cleats.</p>
<p>As for running, the power data will not be affected because the system can distinguish between pedaling and other movement, and will not record any power data while running.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be interested to know whether the same unit would be usable for both road and cyclocross, considering that the two disciplines use different pedals and cleats, and not require that two separate units be purchased.  Also what effect the running required in cyclocross races would do to the power data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be interested to know whether the same unit would be usable for both road and cyclocross, considering that the two disciplines use different pedals and cleats, and not require that two separate units be purchased.  Also what effect the running required in cyclocross races would do to the power data.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diarmuid, as mentioned above, we don&#039;t want to say much yet about how we will handle cleat wear. Information about that will be published over the next few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diarmuid, as mentioned above, we don&#8217;t want to say much yet about how we will handle cleat wear. Information about that will be published over the next few months.</p>
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		<title>By: Diarmuid</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Diarmuid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys

With your cleat system, how do you hope to handle wear and tear from walking around? I guess the cleats will not be plastic but it would still be a challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys</p>
<p>With your cleat system, how do you hope to handle wear and tear from walking around? I guess the cleats will not be plastic but it would still be a challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.brimbrothers.com/2009/09/eurobike-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our system is not the same as Microsport. The most obvious difference is that our sensors are in the cleats while their sensors were to be inside the shoe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our system is not the same as Microsport. The most obvious difference is that our sensors are in the cleats while their sensors were to be inside the shoe.</p>
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